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Michael Patrick Brady's avatar

Her style of argumentation being derived from millennial message board culture is exactly what I thought when reading Authority. I’m glad to see I’m not alone in that.

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Rafael Frumkin's avatar

You know you may have been staring at screens too much when your idea of a brilliant riposte is “go home Bret Easton Ellis, you’re drunk!”

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Menachem's avatar

I am trans and I sometimes find Andrea interesting and funny but overall she leaves a bad taste in my mouth. She’s just a mean girl who seems preoccupied with being too cool. I really don’t like people like that, if I wanted to be bullied again I would go back to high school.

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Menachem's avatar

Also I can’t help but think her popularity is a reflection of the cruel and mean direction the culture has taken. Like how Kendrick Lamar’s most popular song is a giant mean takedown. Is it because she is a great writer or is she filling a need for cruelty in the late stage capitalism world. So is she being lauded for being trans and radical or being a troll?

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Rafael Frumkin's avatar

I'm definitely with you on the strange uptick in antagonistic art, though I think I'd add that a materialist analysis of mean kids might reveal that they'd be taking swipes regardless of the state of capital

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Jonathan Ayala's avatar

I’m reading Authority now and love it. She’s a fantastic stylist and I particularly love her essays, “Pink” and “China Brain.” Her literary and cultural criticisms are sometimes vicious, but that’s just, in queer parlance, reading.

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Rafael Frumkin's avatar

Very fair. I'll add that I remain in enthusiastic agreement with the work she did in "On Liking Women," and I certainly get what you mean by the read. Let's call this a reading-back then.

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💅🏻🤌🏼🔥 Phenomenal points, with citations to back them up, and not a lifted idea one! ALC could take a page or two from your book. {insert funny quip about plagiarism vs. learning from someone’s writing approach} Thanks for making some sense of the confusion soup we’ve been collectively swimming in for too long.

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Rafael Frumkin's avatar

"If I have seen further, it is by climbing atop the shoulders of women much shorter than me" -- 3/4 of my undergrad epistemology class.

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WHOOP! 🔥

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Gregor's avatar

Kudos for doing the work. I can't be bothered to even try and understand her appeal, let alone the work itself.

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Blake Lefray's avatar

I only understood a portion of this essay lol, but really enjoyed what I did understand. I remember Chu saying in her Zadie Smith essay that old school heads assumed that young people rejecting a book with a problematic main character were prioritizing politics over aesthetics. And Chu said in fact they were creating a new Aesthetics. But she never defined it, leaving me to wonder if that new Aesthetics isn’t just… politics. So yeah, let’s call it “a criticism of Good Politics™.” And while I like reading Chu, I agree the foundation of her criticism is just not broad enough to be interesting over the long haul.

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Stuart Ross's avatar

Yum. Wonderful pistachios bad, Iranian pistachios good. This had me remembering "Limits of the Bit" https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/the-limits-of-the-bit/

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Rafael Frumkin's avatar

Was a huge fan of this review when it came out though tbh I think she could've gone even harder in the paint

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Katherine Hashimoto's avatar

Stylish, thoughtful writing, Raf. I enjoyed your piece (even though what little I know of Andrea Chu doesn’t make me want to read her. Kind of like how I liked All the Pretty horses even though I’m not interested in horses, or men in the desert with horses- it comes down to the magic of good writing :)) Keep at it, aim high, people who insult and get rageful are all too common while people think hard are too damn rare. Btw I liked Zadie Smith’s On Beauty :)

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Rafael Frumkin's avatar

Thank you for your kind words as always, Katherine <3

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